Atlantis

And yet again another attempt at locating the mythical Atlantis, this time in the Aegean Sea, (Uchronia? Atlantis Revealed, Christos A. Djonis, 2015, Kindle Version).

Djonis makes use of Mitachondrial DNA maps, especially the distribution of Haplogroup X and uses this map.

Using the earth expansion mechanism and joining Canada and the US to Europe and Africa, (basically joining up the two haplogroup areas) by removing the Atlantic Ocean, one gets what?

Atlantis?

About Louis Hissink

Retired diamond exploration geologist. I spent my professional life looking for mineral deposits, found some, and also located a number of kimberlites in NSW and Western Australia. Exploration geology is the closest one can get to practicing the scientific method, mineral exploration always being concerned with finding anomalous geophysical or geochemical data, framing a model and explanation for the anomaly and then testing it with drilling or excavation. All scientific theories are ultimately false since they invariably involved explaining something with incomplete extant knowledge. Since no one is omniscient or knows everything, so too scientific theories which are solely limited to existing knowledge. Because the future always yields new data, scientific theories must change to be compatible with the new data. Thus a true scientist is never in love with any particular theory, always knowing that when the facts change, so too must he/she change their minds.
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4 Responses to Atlantis

  1. fabio says:

    The part of the map concerning to the Ancient World corresponds to what Colin Mc Evedy called the Ecosphere of White Race. And first Neolitic cultures began in the map region in black (Khirokytia, Çatal Huyuk, Lepensky-Vir, etc). Indeed, Tartessos region in Spain (Tarkish in the Ancient Testament) appears as with the same age of Egypt (possibly because the west part of Mediterranean Sea was colonized by Phoenicians earlier than Jonian Sea by Greeks). But what about the east part of North America ? The map means post Columbus or pre Columbus times? If pre Columbian, we do not need Atlantis: there is Dennis Stranford and Bruce Bradley’s Atlantic Coastal model of Human migration in the Pleistocene from Europe to America following the Glacier coast, which is based on the similarity between Solutrean and Clovis artefacts.

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    • The map is post Columbian times, obviously, but the mtDNA distribution pre-Columbus, or so the data are alleged to be. If all of humanity were dispersed on a single Gondwanan landmass, and then from earth expansion various landmasses become physically separated, then each continent/island would have, possibly, unique biota and human populations.

      Of course the neoDarwinists with their ‘creation myth’ have to imagine an original race, which then spread onwards from its creative centre via migration and what not, over imagined land-bridges, and other innovative methods.

      The essential issue is whether humanoids existed throughout all geological time in the biosphere, or whether, as is presently believed, a last stage of biological evolution that is compatible with religious belief via the uniformitarian creationist meme.

      We think people migrated from an origin because that is determined by our geological and biological model based on creation. What if the creation model is wrong? It is, after all, a human construct.

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  2. fabio says:

    The problem are paleontological and or archaeological human vestiges from eras that are believed without mankind. If we do not consider hoaxes, the few vestiges are usually misinterpretations, like “Forbidden Archaeology” (there were good comments, at least under my point of view, about it in an aussie site related to the University of Ediacara, even if Darwinist: “Talk to Origins”) or the Devonian man that was a smashed amphibious skull, Do you know any credible vestige ?

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    • One needs to remember that we are interpreting everything through the Evolution Filter, or Progressive Filter, which automatically presumes earlier life forms were more primitive. It is also based on the policy that since our ancestors were primitive, then they could not either have sophisticated opinions or understandings of phenomena, and hence if they documented that giants lived in the early times, then that story has to be taken as fantastic and exaggerated and a very primitive viewpoint. My answer to that argument is the existence of enormous quarried blocks of rock (Baalbek), and enormous structures that people of our size would find extremely difficult to manage from an engineering sense. Why fabricate building blocks that are so difficult to move, and put into place? Makes no sense.

      But if we were double our size or even larger, then things scale up and start to make sense.

      And you also need to account for the religious mind that tends to destroy anything that contradicts its beliefs. Religious/dogmatic people do it now, so why not during the past?

      M.J. Harper and his methodology of ‘Applied Epistemology’ is worth studying and understanding. It is essentially what was, is what is now, unless proven to be otherwise.

      Also biological evolution is simply slow motion creationism, since instead of everything being created at once, complexities etc included, the alternative is to create something extremely simple in the beginning that then becomes more complex over time.

      I favour a third approach that is based on monistic idealism.

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