Chronological Conundrums

I’m slowly wading through the volumes making up Pillars of the Past and it occurs to me that if one is a devout Christian or Jew, then that world-view needs to cater for Divine Creation in any history of the peoples of that religion. In a similar fashion unbelievers such as secular humanists, would reject any notion of divine creation, and adopt an alternative world view. This leads to two conflicting world-views, and it seems to me that Charles Lyell, himself a devout Methodist, achieved a compromise between the religious and secular humanist world-views by shifting ‘creation’ back into the distant past to placate the religious, but then deploying non catastrophic mechanisms to explain the current biodiversity of the Earth, and along the way also applying the same uniformitarian principles to geology. What bemuses me is how so many militant atheists have no trouble accepting distant creation, aka The Big Bang, while pilloring the religious fundamentalists for their Creationist beliefs.

So it is obviously a workable compromise from consensus, but quite unscientific.

Reason I mention it is because in volume 4 of the Pillars of the Past, it is firmly stressed that civilisation as we know it first appeared around 1200 BC, and that older civilisations have to be anachronisms, which on the evidence they seem to be, and I would assign the remains at Gobekli Tepe to the first millenium BC since it reminds me of the Assyrians. The appearance of civilisation at 1200 BC would gladden the heart of the various Abrahamic fundamentalists, for sure, but then that history would also cause rabid apoplexy among the secular humanists who are as devoted to their Long Uniformist History (hereafter LUH) as their opposing theological literalists or fundamentalists.

So I’m adopting the late Fred Hoyle’s deduction – that when there is prolonged disputation over a theory in which much effort, time and money has been directed, that we have been thinking with the wrong ideas and that both arguments have to be wrong. So we need to deal with a third view or approach that has no creation event, whether recent or distant.

Except if this approach arrives at a more accurate reconstruction of ancient history, but contradicts both camps, then what? Will either change their minds when the facts change?

So it seems that following a global geological/climatic catastrophe, invariably due to external forces, that the survivors will revert to primitive states just in order to survive, especially city dwellers who know nothing about growing food or farming, city dwellers like the ruling elite who tend to also get wiped out, and hence that civilisation’s ‘memory’ is also wiped out leaving the illiterate survivors to inherit the shambles.

And what do we do if scientifically one shows that religions are built on specious foundations, or that ‘science’ is built on equally specious foundations? Will the devout commit apostasy with the often horrendous price that choice entails, or will they, in the hallowed tradition of cognitive dissonance, punish the messenger and continue in their delusions and denialism.

About Louis Hissink

Retired diamond exploration geologist. I spent my professional life looking for mineral deposits, found some, and also located a number of kimberlites in NSW and Western Australia. Exploration geology is the closest one can get to practicing the scientific method, mineral exploration always being concerned with finding anomalous geophysical or geochemical data, framing a model and explanation for the anomaly and then testing it with drilling or excavation. All scientific theories are ultimately false since they invariably involved explaining something with incomplete extant knowledge. Since no one is omniscient or knows everything, so too scientific theories which are solely limited to existing knowledge. Because the future always yields new data, scientific theories must change to be compatible with the new data. Thus a true scientist is never in love with any particular theory, always knowing that when the facts change, so too must he/she change their minds.
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3 Responses to Chronological Conundrums

  1. fabio says:

    Fomenko thinks like you, Louis, and he claims that in later Renaissance the Jesuits falsified History by means of letters, genealogic documents, statuary, etc. Indeed, it is very difficult for someone to track its true genealogy earlier than 17th century.
    However, I invite you to doubt also of theosophist knowledge regarding to ancient times. Blavatsky applied Lyell’s chronology to the Hindu chronology. Because at that time there was not absolute chronology, since there was not isotope dating, she hit by a factor between one-tenth and there-fifths in her intent. For example, the Jurassic, when the first material man would have appeared in Lemuria according to her, would have begun 18 millions years ago (and Pliocene 800 thousand and Pleistocene 270 thousand, respectively). Mystical evolutionism. Krishnamurti, as he told, gave up this golden cage…


    • Problem of course lies with Lyell’s chronology and that essentially renders Blavatsky’s historical interpretation problematical.

      Fabrication out of ignorance is no sin, of course, but recognising it, especially by outsiders, causes problems. I read a couple of Krishnamurti’s books, little light went on, and I stopped reading him, and as they say, I got his message; many didn’t and don’t. UG Krishnamurti and I have similar outlooks I subsequently discovered.

      As for Lemuria, or Mu, or other ancient civilisations, I now start to wonder if those were fabricated in the same manner that modernists of our time invented the Sumerians etc along the thesis of Heinsohn etc. Or maybe there is a kernel of fact hidden among all these stories and myths.

      There is a a lot of research and hard thinking to make sense of all these things, first and foremost is trying to unravel the existing geochronology.


  2. fabio says:

    The concept of Lemuria was created by Haeckel, based on the prosimians of Madagascar and Southeast Asia. But the word seems to be from Hindu and Arabic legends (it would be the ancient name of Sumatra). And the name Mu to this continent would be given by Churchward, based on his researches about legends of several parts of world, from Northwest Pacific to Ancient Egypt.


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